tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post1854172850217562647..comments2024-02-25T05:03:48.092-07:00Comments on Eudaemonia: The Ever Changing Method to My Ever Deepening MadnessLisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00665632105920753931noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-90737457850782908622008-06-12T10:23:00.000-06:002008-06-12T10:23:00.000-06:00I am quite allergic to these so called tests that ...I am quite allergic to these so called tests that can find people's "strengths". I think they're highly artificial, and part of the "corporate culture", full of made-up words or phrases that have absolutely no meaning, even though you can understand each word. Besides, I don't like to categorize people.<BR/><BR/>I can find some traits in each of the ones that you're listing. It looks like they are written a bit like the astrological predictions - something for everyone to interpret according to their wishes or their abilities.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad about The Foundling Wheel. :-)Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-12542692303440812712008-06-10T22:17:00.000-06:002008-06-10T22:17:00.000-06:00Lisa, American Heritage Dictionary list "intellect...Lisa, American Heritage Dictionary list "intellection," so maybe it is a real word, as opposed to, say, "customer-centric," which some firm under contract with a certain railroad corporation came up with. <BR/><BR/>I think this kind of thing is dependent on the individual. From what you've written, the working synopsis seems a good idea for you. I have a dread of outlines, but not of synopses. I'll be looking forward to your next chapter.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I need to get my characters down to the Chicago Coliseum for LBJ's Unbirthday Party.steve on the slow trainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18257811143869341854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-41150252214281933152008-06-10T21:55:00.000-06:002008-06-10T21:55:00.000-06:00Steve, There does come a time when you have to be ...Steve, There does come a time when you have to be able to succinctly explain the story and I really feel like it's about time! Thanks for the tip on STORY, which I have and didn't think to consult this time around.<BR/><BR/>Yogamum, HAHAHAHAHAHA! "Intellection sounds like something George Bush would say". That's so true. I have a sneaking suspicion that the made-up words may be part of some business re-education camp system tied to a lot of $$$. Isn't that what you do when you want to protect an idea? "Brand" it and make up a bunch of stuff?<BR/><BR/>The working synopsis reminds me of the way my little sister Carrie used to sit at the breakfast table in the morning and go into detailed recitations about the dreams she'd had the night before. It was a lot of "and then this happened...and then...oh, and wait, then this happened" We still give her a hard time about it. :)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665632105920753931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-31131588731136797242008-06-10T19:07:00.000-06:002008-06-10T19:07:00.000-06:00Intellection sounds like something George Bush wou...Intellection sounds like something George Bush would say. I don't trust those test people if they are making up words. (Of course, I once wrote lengthy email to my daughter's soccer association explaining that "reschedulement" was not a word so I am a bit testy about these things).<BR/><BR/>I think a working synopsis sounds like a brilliant idea -- and if it works for you, all the more brilliant!!!Yogamumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02736784200874589271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-24277764408749638442008-06-10T15:47:00.000-06:002008-06-10T15:47:00.000-06:00Oh, and Jim Butcher uses a working synopsis too, I...Oh, and Jim Butcher uses a working synopsis too, I believe!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-1467066238160396482008-06-10T15:46:00.000-06:002008-06-10T15:46:00.000-06:00Robert McKee recommends it in STORY. He favors get...Robert McKee recommends it in STORY. He favors getting a synopsis that takes less than ten minutes to get through, then pitching it to all your friends. After all, they'll give you ten minutes, even if it's a bad idea. <BR/><BR/>His second step: Only develop the ones that leave your listeners on the edge of their seats. Life is short, after all, and ideas are common...Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-20008442216612713132008-06-10T15:26:00.000-06:002008-06-10T15:26:00.000-06:00Charles, I'm guessing you have lots of notes and r...Charles, I'm guessing you have lots of notes and reference that you have to double check things with for the Taleran books. I find the level of detail that's required for world building to be incredible! I'm guessing you have to be pretty organized.<BR/><BR/>Julie, Yeah, I'd think these are fairly common traits too. I'm seeing now that people seem to all develop their own "cheat sheets" to keep them out of trouble, to varying degrees.<BR/><BR/>Vesper, Beautiful post this morning!<BR/><BR/>Ello, Ha! After reading your post at Moon Rat's, I'll bet responsibility was one of your big ones -- funny, it's not on mine :) So -- do you fully outline from day one?<BR/><BR/>Larramie, I try not to let much of the natural cynicism that shows during the course of my day at the ACME Corporation show through. To be honest, we're small and most of us have been working together for quite a long time. We're also pretty old compared to the typical start-up -- I think most of us are (now) over 40, so when I heard we were doing this, I thought it was kind of a waste of time. We all know ourselves and each other pretty well :)<BR/><BR/>Melissa, I do love to compare notes with other people who have taken this test. Most of us in my company who are in sales shared two or three traits, whereas the engineers and the support people were completely different. <BR/><BR/>And I'm relieved to hear that your working synopsis is "rough and rambling". When I estimated the length of my finished working synopsis last night, I seriously underestimated!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665632105920753931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-90863248298294850802008-06-10T14:21:00.000-06:002008-06-10T14:21:00.000-06:00We must have done the same test here at work. Here...We must have done the same test here at work. Here were my top five: Intellection (#1!), Input, Responsibility, Empathy, Learner. I think they fit me pretty well.<BR/><BR/>As far as a working synopsis, yes, I do have one of those, but it is very rough and rambling and can change if need be. But I like having it all down on paper to look at because I forget sometimes what I figured out for a particular plot point and thank heavens I write the dumb thing down, otherwise I'd be in trouble!<BR/><BR/>Great post, Lisa.Melissa Amateishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16086267508858187716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-79764034396528854412008-06-10T10:54:00.000-06:002008-06-10T10:54:00.000-06:00Does Intellection = working synopses here? ;) And...Does Intellection = working synopses here? ;) And, imho, these personality = baloney!<BR/><BR/>You already know who you are, Lisa...no problem. :)Larramiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14788910637361812265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-46288854579740684102008-06-10T08:24:00.000-06:002008-06-10T08:24:00.000-06:00Lisa, I did the same strength finders test but I a...Lisa, I did the same strength finders test but I am so lame I can't remember what I got. <BR/><BR/>I always work off an outline of my entire story just because it helps give me structure but it doesn't mean that the story won't get derailed anyway. You never know what is the natural road for the story to take until you start writing. Good luck!Ello - Ellen Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18311917335471167591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-91300522540341110402008-06-10T05:46:00.000-06:002008-06-10T05:46:00.000-06:00Lisa, I'll have to print this post and read it car...Lisa, I'll have to print this post and read it carefully. The same for the previous one. I'll come back with my comments. :-)Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-33239698711890366862008-06-10T00:18:00.000-06:002008-06-10T00:18:00.000-06:00I'd say those characteristics probably fit many, m...I'd say those characteristics probably fit many, many writers, so you're in good company!<BR/><BR/>I haven't done lengthy synopses, and I kind of fly by the seat of my pants, but I do like to know more or less where I'm going. I tend to write one line descriptions of all the scenes I can think of that might come up and leave it at the bottom of my manuscript where I can see it immediately if I get stuck. I rearrange them, add, or delete as I go, as appropriate. It usually keeps me going fairly well.Julie Kiblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07914386223833117415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-567668315717895367.post-86323279914513062802008-06-10T00:12:00.000-06:002008-06-10T00:12:00.000-06:00Achievor, Intellection, and Lerner, despite the fi...Achievor, Intellection, and Lerner, despite the first two terms being rather silly, seem to characterize me very well. The other two not so mcuh.<BR/><BR/>I do only a very rough working synopsis for my stuff. For the Taleran books I know where I start and where I basically want to end, and then I have some major "points" within the text I want to cover. That's pretty much it.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.com